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16/10/2018

Mercedes diagnostic software: Xentry or DAS

Mercedes diagnostic software: Xentry or DAS

 

DAS (older models, but still most cars communicate through this program)

Xentry (new model cars)

If you set it up correctly, you can program offline in DAS only. Then if we need to go online with DAS we switch the modified flash folder to the original.

Xentry there is no offline programming to my knowledge, only online. Obviously, you need to have login and pass to go online.

And yes we can do 'synchronizations', miss daimler calls them adaptations.

 

 

Besides,...

 

Xentry is for cars from 204 "upwards" but if you have a setup with direct DAS access, then you can do 204 diagnosis from DAS too (at least up to certain MY cars).

 

You are never supposed to get into Xentry from DAS car selections but if you select e.g. 211 from Xentry, Xentry starts DAS and diagnosis is performed like if you started DAS directly and selected 211 from there.

 

HHT is for the oldest models but the line between DAS and HHT is not that clear because cars like 210 perform some diagnosis within DAS and for some control units DAS opens HHT for the actual task.

 

 

In short,

 

All MB from late 80’s to 99 = HHT-WIN

All MB from 2001 to 2009 = DAS

All MB from 2010+ = Xentry

 

The year 2000 is a weird transition period — some MB made in 1999 but the model year is 2000 will be diagnosed from the 38-pin under the hood and thus use HHT-win. Other MB made in early 2000 and sold as a 2000 model will have the OBD port and the SDS will require the OBD cable to diagnosis….and will use DAS.

 

And then there are orphan cars, like some SLK models — some 2000-2001 SLK require the 38-pin.

 

 

IMPORTANT: Software released in 2017 and 2018 doesn’t come with HTT-WIN. But now, it comes again! HHT-WIN is updated to 09.2018 Mercedes software disk.

 

Attachment: SDconnect C4 FULL Mercedes Vehicle List

SD connect C4 with Xentry/DAS can work with Mercedes-Benz Passenger car, van, truck, unimogs, buses, super sports cars, industrial major assembikes

 

Look here:

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Passenger Cars:

A(176), A(169), A(168), B(246), B(245), CLC(117), C(204) C(203), C(202), 190(201), E(212), E(211), E(210), 124(124), S(222), S(221), S(220), S(140), S(126), E(207), CLK(209), CLK(208), CLS(218), CLS(219), CL(216), CL(215), CL(140), SLK(172), SLK(171), SLK(170), SL(231), SL(230), SL(129), SL(107), SLS(197), M(166), M(164), M(163), G(463), G(461), E(212), E(211), E(210), 124(124), S(222), S(221), S(220), S(140), CLK(209), CLK(208), CLS(218), CLS(219), CL(216), CL(215), CL(140), SLK(172), SL(231), SL(230), SL(129), SL(107), SLS(197), M(166), M(164), M(163), G(460), GL(164), GLK(204), R(251)....

Vans:

MB 100(631), T1, SprinterIII, SprinterII, SprinterI, Sprinter900, Citan, Vito(639), Vito(638), V(638), Viano(639), T2, Vario, Vaneo(414)...

Truck:

Actros963/4, Actros2,3, AtegoIII, AtegoII, AxorII, Eonic, Zetros, Actros, Atego Light, Atego Heavey, HPN M96, Atron, HPN M2000, SKL, FSK...

Unimog models:

U20, UGN, UHN....

Bus models:

TRAVEGO, INTOURO, INTEGRO, CITARO, CAPACITY, CITO, TOURISMO, O350/ O403, CONECTO, O404, O405- O408, Minibus, OC500, TOURO, TOURINO, MBC, MULITEGO, O500, O500/ OH, OH, OH368, OF, OF384, LO, O400...

Super Sports Cars:

SLR(199)...

Smart models:

Fortwo 450, Fortwo 451, Fortwo 452, Fortwo 454...

 

You will also see some MAYBACH,SETRA, COBUS, MITISUBISHUI FUSO models (belonging to Benz Group) in XENTRY/ DAS, but SD connect c4 or star c3 cannot support it.

Disabled MAYBACH,SETRA, COBUS, MITISUBISHUI FUSO models

 

More Mercedes models will be updated to the SD connect C4 software disk

 

Source:https://obdexpresscouk.blogspot.com/

 

12/07/2017

Why should you buy SD connect C5/C4 with laptop?

Here list reasons why you should buy a Mercedes diagnostic tool with a laptop together:SD connect C5

—With the Dell D630’s dedicated serial port, there was no issue for me…. it was plug and play… I just loaded the HDD from the Seller into my Dell and all I needed to do was activate WIS/EPC and XENTRY/DAS with “activation keys”… I only use the Dell for mb star sd c4 purposes…

—Bought an older Dell D630 laptop with a serial port and plan on buying MB SD Star C4 directly installed in a Dell D630 hard drive. No Virtual Machine issues.

—Mercedes Benz Star diagnosis C3 / C4 actually specifies the computer or tablet used in the SDS environment… The T30 is rather slow but will get the job done.

—If your ever in the market for a faster SDS laptop, the Dell 630 with at least 2Ghz and the speed improvement especially when using Xentry is like night and day.

—the HDD that is pre-loaded with the software for SDConnect 4 by the Seller, is inserted into the DELL D630… The DELL D630 is the fastest laptop with the RS232 feature.

—Need to connect directly into a RS232 port without using an interface – this is why I went for the complete system with laptop.

—The software Xentry/ DAS is a bit slow on an old IBM so that it is worth paying a bit extra and getting a Dell D630.

—There is a very specific set of COM ports you must use for it to work. For example you need DAS to be looking at COMx within the VM session, then VMware needs to redirect that to COMx which is a ‘physical’ serial port on your machine.

—It’s probably because it has a real com port. Most laptops these days have just a USB port and things don’t always work right if you’re using a USB to RS-232 converter. You wouldn’t want to brick a component during an update if you’re using USB. The other option would be to get a C4 system, but then they cost more. I think there are a couple other systems out there like IBM that also have real com ports.

—The PART D mux(C3) is a serial ported mux—that’s the reason for the Dell and IBM older laptops.

—The PART W mux(SD connect C4) is and Ethernet/wifi connected system and that is the reason for use on other laptops—the issue is the operating system currently DAS Xentry only runs on XP.

—Plug and play!! It is more convenient for users because the software for C3/SD C4 diagnostic tool will be pre-installed before delivery.

 

Here are MB STAR diagnostic kits (tool+laptop) for sale:

all software pre-installed!!!

ready for use!!!

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mb-sd-c4-evg7-tablet

mb-sd-c4-lenovo-t410

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2012.11 SD connect c4 + Dell D630 for offline programming

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latest-mb-sd-c5-d630-laptop

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Here are advantages of MB Star diagnostic multiplexer:

 

MB Star C3 Advantages:

MB Star C3 is called the best-quality Star diagnostic multiplexer.

—the most reputable/ well-received in the market;

—has a better performance and usually it will not happen to be poor connected or work stably during operation. Because of that, an increasing number of customers select MB Star C3 be their professional diagnostic equipment for Mercedes Benz cars.

—its technology and quality is developed after lots of experiments and improvement. The new version MB Star C4 need time to perfect its reliability and operation.

 

MB Star C4 Advantages:

The great performance of MB Star C3 is accepted by the market, while MB Star Compact-4, as a new-born and updated tool of C3, it also own its comparative advantages.

—is much different in the shape from Compact3;

—smaller in size, lighter in weight than Compact3;

—C4 2008 can do all the works what Compact3 does and it is the replacement of Compact3-Star.

 

SDconnect Compact 4 Advantages:

MB SD C4 overcomes the shortage of C3, C4.

—covers a wide range of vehicles including trucks and some cars that C3 and C4 do not support;

—supports wireless diagnose;

—not only support K line diagnose and CAN BUS, but also UDS diagnose protocol. Because old MB STAR C4 main board do not have UDS chip, so old MB STAR C4 can not support it;

—now use Lan cable to connect, can fit all computers (not only IBM T30);

—adopts Military quick swap technology, and supports 10,000 times pull plug, more stable;

 

Cloned BENZ SD C5 Connect Advantages:

—covers all new Mercedes Benz models, Mercedes W222, W221, W212, W203, 211,W 204,W207, W212, GL166, B 246, CLS 218, SLK172 and Smart405, 451, 452, 454

—efficient diagnostic program and complete vehicle database;

—advanced upgraded VCI+ communication interface;

—support Wired/ wireless connection.

—Besides the software c3 and c4 own,it added three more software: SD Media, Xentry and Smart TAN Code.

SD Media: Video and PDF lessons;

Xentry: New software released Xentry software for diagnosing W 204,W207 and W212 which C3 and C4 does not support;

Smart TAN Code: Opened special function in DAS program with Smart cars 405/ 451/452/ 454.Besides, it also opened more special functions, such as engineer mode, remove limitations,etc, which Star C3 and Star C4 do not have.

 

Chart: SD connect C5 vs SDconnect C4 vs MB STAR C3 PRO vs MB STAR C3

 

Comparison List

SD connect C5

SD connect C4

MB Star C3 Pro 

MB Star C3

 

Mux picture

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sd-connect-c4-in-us

mb-star-c3-pro

mb-star-c3

 

Price

$419.00

$519.00

$419.00

$329.00

 

Version

V2017.7

V2017.7

v2016.7

V2016.7

 

Multi-language

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

WIFI/Wireless

Yes

Yes

No

NO

 

UDS protocol

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

Compatible Computer

External HDD/Dell D630 HDD/EVG7 DL46

External HDD/Dell D630 HDD/EVG7 DL46

External HDD/Dell D630 HDD

Dell D630 HDD/External HDD

 

Compatible Windows system

Win XP/7/8

Win XP/7/8

Win XP/7

Win XP/7

 

Support Vehicle Year

1989 to 2017

1989 to 2017

1989 to 2016

1989 to 2016

 

Support Vehicle

Passenger Car,Van, Truck,Unimog, Bus and Super Sports Car

Passenger Car, Van, Truck, Unimog, Sports Car

Passenger Car, Van, Truck, Unimog, Sports Car

Car, Bus, Truck, Sprint, Smart

 

Best for Truck

All the trucks including euro6 also works, tested ok. Bus Mercedes Tourismo euro5 year 2010-2012 test works

Actros963/4, Actros2,3, AtegoIII, AtegoII, AxorII, Eonic, Zetros, Actros, Atego Light, Atego Heavey, HPN M96, Atron, HPN M2000, SKL, FSK, Further model series

No

No

 

Basic diagnostic function

All electric system diagnosis, read faults & live data, erase faults;adaptation, component testing, wiring diagram.

All electric system diagnosis, read faults & live data, erase faults;adaptation, component testing, wiring diagram.

All electric system diagnosis,read faults & live data, erase faults;adaptation, component testing, wiring diagram.

All electric system diagnosis,read faults & live data, erase faults;adaptation, component testing, wiring diagram.

 

Programming

Yes,support programming and buy additional Vediamo 4.2 + PIC12F509, C3 pro can program ECU

Yes,support programming and buy additional Vediamo 4.2 + PIC12F509, C3 pro can program ECU

Programming and buy additional Vediamo 4.2 + PIC12F509, C3 pro can program ECU

Programming and buy Buy additional Vediamo 4.2 + PIC12F509, C3 pro can program ECU

 

SCN offline Coding

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

SCN onine Coding

Yes,Online SCN Coding Service

Yes,Online SCN Coding Service

Yes,limited on the newest verison (over 2015.7 or 2015.09)

Yes, limited on the newest verison (over 2015.7 or 2015.09)

 

Update

Buy newest hard disk to update

Buy newest hard disk to update

Buy newest hard disk to update

Buy newest hard disk to update

 

In conclusion:

 

1) MB Star SD C5 wins in Price, it is cheaper than sdconnect c4;

2)sdconnect c5 = sdconnect c4 in the following aspects: functions, workable protocol,Mercedes vehicle coverage etc.

3)Star c3 and star c3 pro is older generation tool and cheapest.

source :http://blog.mbstartool.com/2017/07/12/why-should-you-buy-...

 

 

 

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