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18/10/2017

VAG parts catalogue: Elsawin vs ETKA vs ETOS

Here has three electronic catalogues for VAG cars:ETKA, ETOS, and ElsaWin . but do these all do the same thing?Or how are they different from one another? Discuss

 

What is ETKA:

ETKA is the official electronic parts catalogue (EPC) for Volkswagen Group motor vehicles. Launched in 1989, ETKA superseded the older parts books and microfilm-based catalogues. ETKA is an abbreviation from the German: Elektronischer Teilekatalog.

 

What is Elsawin:

ELSAWIN is the Service & Repair Workshop software actually used by the Audi main dealers and factory technicians around the world, it covers cars (with varying amount of informations) from 1947 till today. It provides Servicing Guides, Workshop – Repair Manuals, Electric Schemes – Wiring Diagrams, Body Works.

 

What is Etos:

ETOS, the spare parts order system for Volkswagen, SEAT, Skoda, Audi and Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles OEM parts, allows you to work more rapidly and efficiently.

 

Elsawin vs ETKA vs Etos:

 

Elsa is a workshop manual

Etka is a parts catalog

Etos is a parts ordering system

 

ETKA – Parts catalog for internal VAG use. Separate versions for Audi/VW, Skoda and Seat. Very awkward user interface.

ETOS – Parts catalog for VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat. Much more user-friendly interface.

ELSA – Program for repairs etc. For internal VAG use only.

 

ETKA will help you to determine a part number by part location on assembly drawing.

ELSA will help you with electrical diagrams and repair operations description.

 

Ekta is the software that dealers use to find spare parts (VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda), via a search by model etc. … and allows the editing of good material by vehicles or customers (there I am on of me, I have it on my pc and seen turn in conces).

Elsawin is an electronic technical magazine somehow it seems to me. So not at all the same vocation.

Etka is the catalog of spare parts (exploded views, price)

Elsawin is the repair manual (as a technical IT review)

 

The spare parts catalogue is “ETKA”

ELSAWIN the the factory workshop manuals.

 

Elsawin is available to the public…at a price. i think

ETKA is dealer only. Any copies you see advertised on the internet are pirate copies.

 

ETKA is more than a catalog. What I have found most usefull is the parts/assembly diagrams. I am no mechanic, but I play one in my garage…  Those diagrams, combined with the part numbers/ names have really helped me have a better understanding of how things work. Its also a huge help in tracking down replacement parts (which is what it is meant to do)

 

Elsa covers the whole range of cars, VW, Audi and Seat, from 1986 to 2005 (if its a new copy, some of the older stuff gets deleted as the cd gets newer) it has all the info that the dealer workshop gets, it’s all designed around the dealer and their tools. It’s particularly good for shops like mine where we do all the VW Audi cars. It’s 8 gigs and comes on 4 dvds

 

All are in my opinion complementary … .

 

 

13/10/2017

Lonsdor K518ISE Registration Activation, Update Manual

How to register

How to activate

How to update

 

How to RegisterLonsdor K518ISE best key programmer?

After system updating, you need go to registration&activation.

For new user,

Click on Registration,

Input: user name(email), name(min 2 char), password(min 6 char), email verification code

Click on YES

Lonsdor K518ISEregistrationcompletes

(if interrupted after registration is done, you will go to the System update–Registered user to proceed).

 

Then go to Activation confirmation to continue.

 

 

 

After confirming activation, it will go thepassword Setup interface

set 6-digit numbers as your startup password

information verification by Lonsdor

(5-30 minutes, you can check the progress by clicking “Refresh” )

re-enter the password to verify

get the notification that verification successful

the whole process before using the device is complete.

 

The most important note:

  1. User name must be workable email address, so that you can receive the verification codefrom Lonsdor by email.
  2. Please pay attention to the difference between the registration password (min 6 char) and the startup password(6-digit), the former will generally only used when registration, so please commit the 6-digit startup password into memory, as this will be required every time when you start the device.
  3. The account will be bound to the corresponding device for life, other accounts can not log in your device and your account can not log in an registered or activated device either. 4. An account can be used to bind multiple new devices.

 

 

Connect to the network

the Lonsdor K518ISE car key programming software system will automatically update to the latest version.

There are 3 ways of system update:

 One key update: quickly update the new added or modified functions.

 APK update: this is used when the APK is updated.

 Force to update: this is used when the device is faulty or to retrieve data.

 

 

 

Volvo (S40, S60, S80, XC60, XC90, C30, C70, V40, V60, V70) key programming.

Toyota/Lexus: smart key all key lost – via OBD ( without dismantle)

BMW CAS3/CAS3+/CAS3++: direct OBD programming

BMW CAS4/CAS4+: dismantle & read data programming

2016 -New Maserati: smart key programming

2016 -New Ford: smart key programming

Hyundai / Kia 46/47/8A smart key: PIN code reading via OBD, all key lost included.

Renault ( Megane, Koleos, Scenic) without PIN code key programming

VAG group 4th & 5th immobilizer system

Ferrari (458, F12, F149): direct OBD programming

Peugeot /Citroen: two ways to read PIN code & programming, all keys lost included.

 

 

Lonsdor K518ISEImmobilizer Car List:

 

Europe:

Audi, BMW, Benz, VW, Volvo, Citroen, Ferrari, Maserati, Fiat, Lamborghini, Jaguar, MG,Land Rover, Bentley, Lancia, Opel, Peugeot, Porsche, DS, Renault, Alfa Romeo, Smart,Borgward

America:

Cadillac, Chevrolet, Dodge, GMC, Buick, Hummer, Ford, JEEP, Lincoln, Mercury

Asia:

Honda, Hyundai, Isuzu, KIA, Lexus, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Ssangyong, Subaru, Suzuki,Toyota, Shigaoka Queen

China:

Iveco, Trumpchi, BYD, Geely, Chery, Great Wall, Young Lotus (Basically all Chinese carmodels are included)

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Lonsdor K518ISE Odometer Correction Car List:

 

VW, Porsche, Ford, Jaguar, Land Rover, Mazda, Audi, Renault, Hummer, Hyundai, Kia…

Note: more high-end cars will be updated very soon.

 

So, Lonsdor K518ISE can be the best key programming machine for all cars.

 

1st key programmer tool in the world is able to:

Read PIN code to Kia / Hyundai function for Type 46 & 47 & 8Akeys + Add Smart Key without PIN code

Match keys for all Volvo models via OBD

Mazda 3 Angkesaila smart key program (2017)

BYD smart key program without Pincode

Nissan key system (4 Digit Pin Code)

Nissan remote system

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) incl. Qashqai(after 2015), X-TRAIL(before 2013), QX60(after 2013), teana-vip(after 2013), Cima(after 2013), JX35(after 2013)

Toyota Smart Key all lost

Lamborghini Porsche BMW & LandRover Ferrari Models covered

a lot of Chinese vehicles Great Wall Haval Borgward MG Beiqi Foton covered

 

Introduce Universal Smart Key Emulator:

 

SKE-LT: Smart Key emulator – Toyota/Lexus smart key for all key lost via OBD

Black:  SKE-LT-DST40(94/D4) -Supports 94/D4 smart key.

Red: SKE-LT-8A(88/A8)-Support 88/A8 smart key.

Green: SKE-LT-DST80(98)-Supports 98 smart key.

Blue: SKE-LT-8A(A9)-Supports A9 smart key

Support by OBDexpress.co.uk .

09/10/2017

What exactly is the difference between FVDI and FDVI FLY?

FVDI or FDVI Flyobd:

 

Fvdi Fly is clone of AVDI (abrites) original tool.

Fvdi is clone of Fvdi Fly.

Fvdiclones are very limited but can be useful.

 

I used both of them and I never noticed any difference in functionality. I compared pcb and both are same, pcb version v4.1, same components

 

I have fvdi not from fly

And I have trouble with k-line – it not work.

 

I haven’t use fly but I have used fvdi obd and is working good for its price.

I heard that fly is clone of original and fvdi others is clone of fly ,that means is clone of clone .

 

I have an FVDI 2014 non fly and it works on K-Line and Can bus fine, not all features of each software work but it’s still a great piece of kit for the cash.

 

Don’t go with clone of fly fvdi. Fly FVDI is clone from AVDI. And other people clones Fly FVDI again, so clone from clone. I had FVDI 2015 Mercedes and a nice guy from ther forum cracked it to all brands. I bought genuine AVDI in cause of the online functions and sold my Fly FVDI 2015 cracked to a mate of me. To buy a FVDI from a shop always risky, always russian roulette. There are different hardware revisions.

 

Do not buy FVDI. This version Clone of Clone. not stable, not working good. You Need FLY FVDI, Working good, and stable!

 

Depending on the cars that you work on.

If it is mostly vag. vvdi or vvdi2.

For Bmw multitool, or also vvdi2.

Those are from xhorse and come with updates.

Some are happy with there fvdi, but i here many complains, when they need support or repair.

 

Tested fvdi from fly is work ok not full work but with a same bugs and other clone is work a same.

clone is clone fly or others a same craps, better is original Avdi but price …

 

Do not buy fvdi2.. whey don’t post which new functions it have.and what exact it can do.

they promised update fro free in future.it real.because updates never comes out.

keep your money or better by an tool vvdi2 or vvdi bga mercedes tool.

Vvdi2 brings free updates.a tool works good.

wait until some people post what fvdi2 can really do.

If you looking only for VAG + BMW , then VVDI2 and VVDI prog is way to go. No need any other tool.90% of VAG and BMW can be done by OBD in VVDI2.

VVDI programmer don’t have OBD it’s only for bench programming.

Good for CAS4, FRM, EZS, EWS4 and many more.

 

 

Flyobd FVDI2 review:

 

I bought Flyobd FVDI generation 2 for VAG group vehicles. The only improvement they did was on vag group and that improvement did affect other software. The rest = 0 or bad.

Hmm… Maybe i can also say nothing new on on VAG. it’s v24 also. Only this time it can process info over the Internet and it function same as avdi v24 but does not support JC cluster and cannot read immo data for Audi from 2009 up , and also when trying to get cs for key coding after processing data over internet it shows 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

What i did on VAG vehicles with this Fvdi2 vag commander:

– Brand/Model of car : VW Caravelle– Year of car : 2001

– Feature in relation : transponder programming from dump

– Version of FVDI : Tagkey Tool 6.2

– Result : Error (4pcs. PCF7935 damaged)

Dump recognized good, pin readed correctly. Problem solved programming prepared PCF7935 to VW id44 via OBD.

 

– Brand/Model of car : Skoda Roomster– Year of car : 2006

– Feature in relation : pin read and key programming

– Version of FVDI : VAG 24.0

– Result : OK

 

– Brand/Model of car : golf 6 TDI 2012 
– Feature in relation : with CS (component protection ) , pin read and key programming

– Result : ok

– Brand/Model of car : VW Passat 3C 2.0tdi– Year of car : 2007

– Feature in relation : learning key

– Version of FVDI : OLD 18

– Result :ok

 

– Brand/Model of car : VAG– Year of car : 1998-2002

– Feature in relation : pin read from EDC15

– Version of FVDI : VAG 24.0

– Result : Error (can’t connected)

 

– Brand/Model of car : Audi A4– Year of car : 2003

– Feature in relation : pin read and key programming cluster RB4 crypto

– Version of FVDI : VAG 24.0

– Result : ErrorAfter read pin, eeprom content in RB4 faulty. Car don’t recognized original key. Solved by write content saved after first read.

 

– Brand/Model of car :Seat Leon 1PA

– Year of car : 2011

– Version of FVDI :fvdi 21

– Feature in relation :add new key

– Result :successfully

I would only suggest fly company to focus more on individual software like vag group and deliver like Xhorse VVDI2 than try to do many and only anger and frustrate customers

 

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